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Poster: Moongleam Date: May 2, 2010 5:18pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Let's check RKO 1931

If billbarstad will provide a list of RKO films released in 1931, I now have the data files needed to do the checking.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: May 7, 2010 9:30pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Let's check RKO 1931

Here you go:

# Double Decoy (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Men of Chance (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Mickey's Sideline (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Peach-O-Reno (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Many a Sip (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Mickey's Helping Hand (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Ether Talks (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Sunshine Susie (1931) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Stung (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Secret Service (1931/I) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Are These Our Children (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Way Back Home (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# A Melon-Drama (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Scratch-As-Catch-Can (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Mystery of Compartment C (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Consolation Marriage (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Strife of the Party (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# The House Dick (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Use Your Noodle (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# False Roomers (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Fanny Foley Herself (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Friends and Lovers (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Facing the Gallows (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Gland Parade (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Cowslips (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Mickey's Thrill Hunters (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Gay Diplomat (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# A Clean-Up on the Curb (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Mickey's Wildcats (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Smart Woman (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Way of All Fish (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Der Raub der Mona Lisa (1931) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical) (subtitled)
# Trouble from Abroad (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Runaround (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# High Stakes (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# The County Seat (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Traveling Husbands (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Caught Plastered (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Lone Starved Ranger (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Woman Between (1931/II) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Public Defender (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Too Many Cooks (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Mickey's Diplomacy (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Three Who Loved (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Mickey's Rebellion (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Transgression (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Toby the Bull Thrower (1931) ... Distributor
# Young Donovan's Kid (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Everything's Rosie (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# White Shoulders (1931) ... Distributor
# Blondes Prefer Bonds (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Halloween (1931) ... Distributor
# Cracked Nuts (1931) ... Distributor (USA) (theatrical)
# The Sin Ship (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Bachelor Apartment (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Down South (1931) ... Distributor
# Mickey's Crusaders (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Second Hand Kisses (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Laugh and Get Rich (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Brown Derby (1931) ... Distributor
# Lime Juice Nights (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Behind Office Doors (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# She Went for a Tramp (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Lady Refuses (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Wife o' Riley (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Toby the Milkman (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Kept Husbands (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Dumbbells in Derbies (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Mickey's Stampede (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Millie (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Itching Hour (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Cimarron (1931) ... Distributor (1930) (USA) (theatrical)
# Circus Time (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# He Loved Her Not (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Talking Turkey (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Beau Ideal (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Royal Bed (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Aces Up (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)
# Nuit d'Espagne (1931) ... Distributor (1931) (USA) (theatrical)

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: May 8, 2010 6:50am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: RKO and MGM PD titles.

RKO With RKO the big year was 1932. It was at least three months worth of production in a row that wasn't renewed. The story goes that when Hughes sold the company in 1959 the secretary who was in charge of the NY office and handled all renewals trashed the renewals list as revenge for losing her job. It wasn't until a sharp eyed archivist in Hollywood noticed that the films weren't being renewed that systematic renewals were lodged from Hollywood (the new NY office's response being "what renewals?"). We have the secretary to thank for films like "Most Dangerous Game" and "Bird of Paradise". And we can all hate the archivist for picking up the "problem" in time to renew movies like "Phantom of Crestwood" and "Bill of Divorcement" MGM With MGM the unintentional run of PD titles was all to do with copyright notices. Vengeance Valley, Three Guys Named Mike, Mr Imperium, Royal Wedding, Cause For Alarm, Father's Little Dividend, The Painted Hills, Home Town Story, Go For Broke all were relesed in 1951 with 1950 notices. When 1979 came around it was one year too late for renewal because of the date in notice. A couple of years later they realised that they had made a similar but even bigger mistake. The notice in The Last Time I Saw Paris read 1945 not 1954.
This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2010-05-08 13:50:00

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Poster: I Love a good movie Date: Jul 1, 2011 6:11pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: RKO and MGM PD titles.

what movies did MGM have the copyright to, in the later years from1950 on that was from originaly RKO studios

A company in Japan around that time has the copyright to produce a lot of 3D movies on that was then a vinal lazer disc and it covered warners and universal titles
this company went under and no one took up the copyright to these 3D movies , so thats the legal position to this movies

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Poster: Moongleam Date: May 8, 2010 9:01am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: RKO and MGM PD titles.

For "The Senator Was Indiscreet", the IMDB release-date page shows:
USA 26 December 1947 (New York City, New York) (premiere)
The opening credits show:
COPYRIGHT MCMXLVII BY INTER-JOHN, INCORPORATED

Does it matter that the renewal was printed in the volume for the 2nd half of 1976? Or is the date "6Oct75" what really matters?

------------- 1976-B.TXT --------
|639293.
The Senator was indiscreet. By
Inter-John, Inc. (c) 8Bar48; L1657.
National Telefila Associates, Inc. (PHH);
60ct75; 8639293.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: May 8, 2010 9:27am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: RKO and MGM PD titles.

Just in case you want to check 1932, as V-C refers to:

# Bugs and Books (1932) ... Distributor (USA) (theatrical)
# Jitters the Butler (1932) ... Distributor
# The Animal Kingdom (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Fish Feathers (1932) ... Distributor (USA) (theatrical)
# The Half Naked Truth (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Yarn of Wool (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Pencil Mania (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Penguin Pool Murder (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Mickey's Charity (1932) ... Distributor (USA)
# Pickaninny Blue (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Secrets of the French Police (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Bride's Bereavement; or, The Snake in the Grass (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Men of America (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Renegades of the West (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Rockabye (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Sham Poo, the Magician (1932) ... Distributor (USA) (theatrical)
# Men Are Such Fools (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Conquerors (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Hokum Hotel (1932) ... Distributor (USA) (theatrical)
# Piano Tooners (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Sport Parade (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Little Orphan Annie (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Venice Vamp (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Feathered Follies (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Millionaire Cat (1932) ... Distributor (USA) (theatrical)
# A Spanish Twist (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Parlor, Bedroom and Wrath (1932) ... Distributor (USA) (theatrical)
# The Phantom of Crestwood (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# A Cat-Fish Romance (1932) ... Distributor (USA) (theatrical)
# Strange Justice (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# A Bill of Divorcement (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Come on Danger! (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Hell's Highway (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Barnyard Bunk (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Hold 'Em Jail (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Most Dangerous Game (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Thirteen Women (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Bring 'Em Back Half Shot (1932) ... Distributor (USA) (theatrical)
# Two Lips and Juleps; or, Southern Love and Northern Exposure (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Last Frontier (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Jolly Fish (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Age of Consent (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Down in Dixie (1932) ... Distributor (USA) (theatrical)
# The Iceman's Ball (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Bird of Paradise (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Golf Chump (1932) ... Distributor (USA) (theatrical)
# Roar of the Dragon (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Engineer's Daughter; or, Iron Minnie's Revenge (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Bring 'Em Back Alive (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical), Distributor (1948) (USA) (theatrical) (re-release)
# Is My Face Red? (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Mickey's Golden Rule (1932) ... Distributor (USA)
# Mickey's Big Business (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# State's Attorney (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Roadhouse Murder (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Symphony of Six Million (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Girl Crazy (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Lost Squadron (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Mickey's Holiday (1932) ... Distributor (USA)
# Mickey's Travels (1932) ... Distributor (USA)
# Never the Twins Shall Meet (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# A Woman Commands (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Ladies of the Jury (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Ex-Rooster (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Panama Flo (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Big Dame Hunting (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Girl of the Rio (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Swift Justice (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# A Firehouse Honeymoon (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# Mickey's Busy Day (1932) ... Distributor (USA)
# Self Condemned (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Black Ghost (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)
# The Marriage Bond (1932) ... Distributor (UK)
# Uncle Tom and Little Eva (1932) ... Distributor (1932) (USA) (theatrical)

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Poster: Moongleam Date: May 8, 2010 10:41am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Let's check RKO 1931

Results for billbarstad's list for 1932. For details, see attached file. NOTE: the volume for the 2nd half of 1961 is not yet available online, but that presumably won't matter since a renewal in 1961 would have been too late. not renewed BUGS AND BOOKS (1932) not renewed JITTERS THE BUTLER (1932) not renewed THE ANIMAL KINGDOM (1932) renewed FISH FEATHERS (1932) renewed THE HALF NAKED TRUTH (1932) not renewed YARN OF WOOL (1932) not renewed PENCIL MANIA (1932) renewed PENGUIN POOL MURDER (1932) not renewed MICKEY'S CHARITY (1932) not renewed PICKANINNY BLUE (1932) renewed SECRETS OF THE FRENCH POLICE (1932) not renewed THE BRIDE'S BEREAVEMENT; OR, THE SNAKE IN THE GRASS (1932) renewed MEN OF AMERICA (1932) renewed RENEGADES OF THE WEST (1932) renewed ROCKABYE (1932) not renewed SHAM POO, THE MAGICIAN (1932) not renewed MEN ARE SUCH FOOLS (1932) renewed THE CONQUERORS (1932) not renewed HOKUM HOTEL (1932) not renewed PIANO TOONERS (1932) renewed THE SPORT PARADE (1932) renewed LITTLE ORPHAN ANNIE (1932) not renewed VENICE VAMP (1932) not renewed FEATHERED FOLLIES (1932) not renewed THE MILLIONAIRE CAT (1932) not renewed A SPANISH TWIST (1932) not renewed PARLOR, BEDROOM AND WRATH (1932) renewed THE PHANTOM OF CRESTWOOD (1932) not renewed A CAT-FISH ROMANCE (1932) renewed STRANGE JUSTICE (1932) renewed A BILL OF DIVORCEMENT (1932) renewed COME ON DANGER (1932) renewed HELL'S HIGHWAY (1932) not renewed BARNYARD BUNK (1932) renewed HOLD 'EM JAIL (1932) not renewed THE MOST DANGEROUS GAME (1932) renewed THIRTEEN WOMEN (1932) not renewed BRING 'EM BACK HALF SHOT (1932) not renewed TWO LIPS AND JULEPS; OR, SOUTHERN LOVE AND NORTHERN EXPOSURE (1932) not renewed THE LAST FRONTIER (1932) not renewed JOLLY FISH (1932) renewed THE AGE OF CONSENT (1932) not renewed DOWN IN DIXIE (1932) not renewed THE ICEMAN'S BALL (1932) not renewed BIRD OF PARADISE (1932) not renewed THE GOLF CHUMP (1932) renewed ROAR OF THE DRAGON (1932) not renewed THE ENGINEER'S DAUGHTER; OR, IRON MINNIE'S REVENGE (1932) renewed BRING 'EM BACK ALIVE (1932) renewed IS MY FACE RED (1932) not renewed MICKEY'S GOLDEN RULE (1932) not renewed MICKEY'S BIG BUSINESS (1932) renewed STATE'S ATTORNEY (1932) renewed THE ROADHOUSE MURDER (1932) renewed SYMPHONY OF SIX MILLION (1932) renewed GIRL CRAZY (1932) renewed THE LOST SQUADRON (1932) not renewed MICKEY'S HOLIDAY (1932) not renewed MICKEY'S TRAVELS (1932) not renewed NEVER THE TWINS SHALL MEET (1932) renewed A WOMAN COMMANDS (1932) renewed LADIES OF THE JURY (1932) not renewed EX-ROOSTER (1932) renewed PANAMA FLO (1932) not renewed BIG DAME HUNTING (1932) renewed GIRL OF THE RIO (1932) not renewed SWIFT JUSTICE (1932) not renewed A FIREHOUSE HONEYMOON (1932) not renewed MICKEY'S BUSY DAY (1932) not renewed SELF CONDEMNED (1932) not renewed THE BLACK GHOST (1932) renewed THE MARRIAGE BOND (1932) not renewed UNCLE TOM AND LITTLE EVA (1932) 31 of 73 renewed. 42%
This post was modified by Moongleam on 2010-05-08 17:41:59

Attachment: _RKO-PD-1932.txt

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Poster: Moongleam Date: May 8, 2010 9:25am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Let's check RKO 1931

The search routine performs a fuzzy, fault-tolerant comparison of the movie titles. (It does this because the OCR software that converted the page scans to text made lots of mistakes.) So if a title is labelled "renewed", you need to check the attached file to make sure that it was.

For example, "THE LONE STARVED RANGER" is shown as renewed, but a slightly different title was actually found (the number 0.174 is the amount of error):

---------- 1958-A.txt ---------
0.174
THE LONE STAR STRANGER, a photoplay It
one reel by Columbia Pictures Corp.
(C) 6Jan31; LPI873. Columbia Pictures
Corp. (PWH); 28Mar58; R211977.



not renewed DOUBLE DECOY (1931)
renewed MEN OF CHANCE (1931)
not renewed MICKEY'S SIDELINE (1931)
renewed PEACH-O-RENO (1931)
renewed MANY A SIP (1931)
not renewed MICKEY'S HELPING HAND (1931)
not renewed ETHER TALKS (1931)
not renewed SUNSHINE SUSIE (1931)
not renewed STUNG (1931)
renewed SECRET SERVICE (1931)
renewed ARE THESE OUR CHILDREN (1931)
renewed WAY BACK HOME (1931)
not renewed A MELON-DRAMA (1931)
not renewed SCRATCH-AS-CATCH-CAN (1931)
not renewed THE MYSTERY OF COMPARTMENT C (1931)
renewed CONSOLATION MARRIAGE (1931)
renewed STRIFE OF THE PARTY (1931)
not renewed THE HOUSE DICK (1931)
not renewed USE YOUR NOODLE (1931)
not renewed FALSE ROOMERS (1931)
renewed FANNY FOLEY HERSELF (1931)
renewed FRIENDS AND LOVERS (1931)
not renewed FACING THE GALLOWS (1931)
renewed THE GLAND PARADE (1931)
not renewed COWSLIPS (1931)
not renewed MICKEY'S THRILL HUNTERS (1931)
renewed THE GAY DIPLOMAT (1931)
not renewed A CLEAN-UP ON THE CURB (1931)
not renewed MICKEY'S WILDCATS (1931)
renewed SMART WOMAN (1931)
not renewed THE WAY OF ALL FISH (1931)
not renewed DER RAUB DER MONA LISA (1931)
not renewed TROUBLE FROM ABROAD (1931)
renewed THE RUNAROUND (1931)
renewed HIGH STAKES (1931)
not renewed THE COUNTY SEAT (1931)
renewed TRAVELING HUSBANDS (1931)
renewed CAUGHT PLASTERED (1931)
renewed THE LONE STARVED RANGER (1931)
not renewed THE WOMAN BETWEEN (1931)
renewed THE PUBLIC DEFENDER (1931)
renewed TOO MANY COOKS (1931)
not renewed MICKEY'S DIPLOMACY (1931)
renewed THREE WHO LOVED (1931)
not renewed MICKEY'S REBELLION (1931)
renewed TRANSGRESSION (1931)
not renewed TOBY THE BULL THROWER (1931)
renewed YOUNG DONOVAN'S KID (1931)
renewed EVERYTHING'S ROSIE (1931)
renewed WHITE SHOULDERS (1931)
not renewed BLONDES PREFER BONDS (1931)
not renewed HALLOWEEN (1931)
renewed CRACKED NUTS (1931)
renewed THE SIN SHIP (1931)
renewed BACHELOR APARTMENT (1931)
not renewed DOWN SOUTH (1931)
not renewed MICKEY'S CRUSADERS (1931)
not renewed SECOND HAND KISSES (1931)
renewed LAUGH AND GET RICH (1931)
not renewed BROWN DERBY (1931)
not renewed LIME JUICE NIGHTS (1931)
not renewed BEHIND OFFICE DOORS (1931)
not renewed SHE WENT FOR A TRAMP (1931)
not renewed THE LADY REFUSES (1931)
not renewed THE WIFE O' RILEY (1931)
not renewed TOBY THE MILKMAN (1931)
not renewed KEPT HUSBANDS (1931)
not renewed DUMBBELLS IN DERBIES (1931)
not renewed MICKEY'S STAMPEDE (1931)
not renewed MILLIE (1931)
not renewed THE ITCHING HOUR (1931)
renewed CIMARRON (1931)
not renewed CIRCUS TIME (1931)
not renewed HE LOVED HER NOT (1931)
not renewed TALKING TURKEY (1931)
not renewed BEAU IDEAL (1931)
renewed THE ROYAL BED (1931)
not renewed ACES UP (1931)
not renewed NUIT D'ESPAGNE (1931)

31 of 79 renewed.
39%


Attachment: _RKO-PD-1931.txt